Family/Spouse: DOBBS, Oscar. Oscar was born about 1904. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Buried:
Quintown Church of Christ Cemetery

James married BRASFIELD, Lucy Elizabeth on 7 Aug 1902 in Choctaw Nation. Lucy (daughter of BRASFIELD, John L and VINES, Rhoda H.) was born on 14 Mar 1882; died on 12 Jan 1930; was buried in Hueytown, Jefferson County, Alabama (Quintown Church of Christ Cemetery). [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgarvin/kinard/chockpqmarr.htm CHOCTAW NATION MARRIAGES GROOM INDEX 1890 - 1907 Transcribed by MARY TURNER KINARD COPYRIGHT 27 APR 1992 Mary Kinard GROOM AGE BRIDE AGE DATE RESIDENCE BOOK©PAGE QUINN, HESSIE 22 BRASFIELD, LUCY 19 7 AUG 1902 ALLEN Mc10 202

Notes:

Buried:
Freewill Baptist Church Cemetery

George married TUGGLE, Joann on 15 Mar 1879 in , Walker, Alabama, USA. Joann (daughter of TUGGLE, James B. and HARRISON, Sarah Elizabeth) was born on 3 Feb 1861 in Jasper, Walker, Alabama, USA; died on 6 Feb 1935 in Jasper, Walker, Alabama, USA; was buried in Jefferson, Alabama, USA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Buried:
Freewill Baptist Church Cemetery

Notes:

* John L. BRASFIELD married Rhoda VINES March 15, 1865 in Jefferson County, Alabama. John L. was the father of William Leonard Brasfield, who married Minnie Lee Payne. John was my maternal g-grandfather.

* William Leonard BRASFIELD married Minnie Lee PAYNE on March 14, 1903 in Walker County, Alabama. He was my maternal grandfather.

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Howdy once again Michael! I am enclosing this email to update the children of John L. Brasfield and Rhoda Vines. On your site you have 2 sets of the same child and 1 extra that does not belong. First of all, the children named Aner, Lulen and Amanda are really Anna, Lucy and Minnie whom you do list. The Aner, Lulen and Amanda names which are mentioned in the MacAlister book are the names that Rhoda provided to the federal government when she tried to file for her widow's civil war pension after John L. died. Rhoda was illiterate and the names were written down as she pronounced them. According to my kin, Rhoda was a less than ideal mother and that my ggrandfather Henry and his sister Ida raised their younger siblings while Rhoda was off doing who knows what. I have a copy of the pension application and my ggrandfather Henry signs as a witness while Rhoda signed with an X. You also list on the site a child named Ambrose Brasfield. There was no such child. You may have him mixed up with Anna's husband Ambrose Quinn whom you do list correctly. Here is a correct list of all the children and their birthdates and spouses. There is still an ongoing debate as to Henry's birthdate. My dad says he was born in 1869, Henry's tombstone says 1871 and the 1910 census, which I chose to accept as a compromise says 1870. Aunt Ida is also debated as to 1870 or 1871 so since I am male I am saying 1871!

Henry Wadsworth Brasfield b. 1/1870 m. 1. Belle McCarty 2. Augusta Jetton
Ida Brasfield b. 1871 m. Marion Ballinger
Anna Brasfield b. 12/24/1876 m. Ambrose Quinn
Lena Brasfield b. 2/25/1878 m.Evan Quinn
William Leonard "Lee" Brasfield b. 10/29/1880 m. Minnie Lee Payne
Lucy Brasfield b. 3/14/1882 m. Hessie Quinn
Minnie Brasfield b. 10/26/1886 m. William Alexander

Ambrose and Evan Quinn were brothers and Hessie Quinn was their first cousin. I know of at least 7 occasions where Brasfields and Quinns got together and had children, including my grandparents. The birthdates for the children are taken from tombstones but as we have seen they may not be accurate as well. Thank you once again for the time that you put into this and whenever I get free time I will pass along more information. Have a nice day.
Paul Kenneth Brasfield
Palestine, Texas USA
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Howdy Michael,
There has been much debate and speculation in my family over which side John L. Brasfield served with during the Civil War. The McAllister book on page 607 lists him with the 1st Alabama Calvary and the 12th Tennessee. Both units were Union outfits. His wife Rhoda made a pension claim # 504437 attesting to his service. I have a copy of that pension claim from the national archives and his name was never found as being a member of any of those units nor do I believe that Rhoda ever got her pension. Given the shady and not too pleaseant reputation of my 2d greatgrandmother it is possible that she made up the story of John serving for the Union just to try to get any pension she could get her hands on. My greatgrandfather Henry W. Brasfield, Peter Copeland and Thomas and Mary Trice all signed as witnesses on her behalf. She claims that John served from 1864 till the end of the war and that he hid out in the woods while on furlough as to not be caught by the rebels. What is strange is that they were married in March 1865 while the war was still going on. I recently found a website to which shows strong evidence that John L served with the Confederates. http://www.geocities.com/coh41/13thBtlnAlParRgrs.html details the history and muster rolls of the 13th Battallion Partisan Rangers. They were a Confederate calvary unit formed in Jasper, Alabama in September 1862. Company B lists a John Brasfield, with one s, along with a few Alexanders, a CC Ballinger, WT Hancock and Daniel Trice. The names listed above are surnames that appear often in my family tree. Company C lists two McCartys as well as two Jettuns who may be Jettons. My greatgrandfather Henry married both a McCarty and a Jetton. I am convinced that John L. Brasfield did in fact serve for the Confederacy at one time. It is possible that he did switch sides later as the war turned in favor of the Union even though I can't verify his service other than what Rhoda claims. I thought that this little bit of history may be of interest to the website under your stories or Military section. The above weblink may also be a helpful tool on your site for other Brasfields interested in Civil War history. Thank you once again for your dedication to our website as always.
Paul Kenneth Brasfield
Palestine, Texas USA

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Notes for John L Brasfield:
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The 13th Battalion Alabama Partisan Rangers
Roster Of Company B
Brasfield, John - Private Enlisted September 6,1862 at Jasper,Alabama. _________________________________________________________
(Per Deanne Quinn Phillips,
John L was a private in the Union Army, in Company D, 1st Al
and later Company M, 12th Tennesse Regiment as cook (Civil War).
Deanne also sent me copies where Henry Brasfield &
Peter Copeland attested a statement for pension claim for Rhoda.)
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1850 U.S. Census, Greene Cty, Al
Brasfield, Alfred-43-M-Teacher, Aney (Orey) 37- F
John L-10-M, William H-7- M, James D-5- M
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1860 U.S. Census, Walker Cty, Al. Eastern Div, P.O. Democrat,
Pg 911, Family #336,
Brassfield, Alfred-53 M School teacher, Amy -45 F Domestic
John L-18 M Farm labor, William H-15 M Farm labor
(Lives next door to James T Davis)
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Sentiment on John L Brasfield's tombstone at Snow Grave yard:
A light from our household is gone,
A voice we loved is still,
A place is vacant in our hearts that can never be filled
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More About John L Brasfield:
Burial: Snow Cem, Hwy 269 Pumpkin Center,Walker Cty, Al


Buried:
Snow Cemetery

John married VINES, Rhoda H. on 13 Mar 1865 in Jefferson, Alabama, USA. Rhoda (daughter of VINES, Andrew Jackson and GOODWIN, Cynthia) was born on 7 Jul 1849 in Hewett, Walker County, Alabama; died on 18 Jan 1937; was buried on 19 Jan 1937 in Hueytown, Jefferson, Alabama, USA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Buried:
Quintown Church of Christ Cemetery

William married MILLER, Jane. Jane was born in 1830 in Alabama, USA; died in in Alabama, USA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Buried:
Friendship Cemetery

James married HARRISON, Sarah Elizabeth about 1841 in Hall, Georgia, USA. Sarah (daughter of HARRISON, Edward and GIDEON, Susannah) was born on 12 Apr 1818 in Georgia, USA; died on 14 Oct 1888 in Cordova, Alabama, USA; was buried in Cordova, Walker, Alabama, USA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Buried:
Friendship Cemetry

Alfred married UNKNOWN, Amy. Amy was born about 1815 in North Carolina, USA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Andrew married GOODWIN, Cynthia on 30 Jul 1836 in Jefferson, Alabama, USA. Cynthia was born about 1815 in Tennessee, USA; died before 1910 in Jefferson, Alabama, USA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]